?

Log in

Previous Entry | Next Entry

Big Damn Author's Note for Chapter 2



This is an Author's Note for Chapter 2, so you should probably read that for this to make any sense!

This chapter is set a year before TS1. In the original game, Michael Bachelor was a young man just out of college. 25 years later he died of "old age" at about 50, but that was Maxis's error when they decided to make him Bella's dead older brother. (Though really, there are no actual errors with the premade character's ages, everyone was just chugging the Elixir of Life. ^_~) TS3 really confused things up by making him a teenager 25 years before TS1, but I'm favoring the original, because it's nearly impossible to reconcile TS3 with the rest of canon, anyway.

So what about Dina? She's supposed to be waaayyy younger than him, and if this is 26 years before, shouldn't she be a little kid? Or if she's a teen, shouldn't he be middle-aged? Well, here's the thing: I don't have a problem with large age gaps if both people are adults, but it's a very different situation when teenagers are involved, even when the teenager is above the age of consent (I chose to put Dina at the age of consent for my state). Here's a screencap from the original Dina's memories (Labelled correctly, I promise. You can check it yourself.):



Here we see it is totally canon that Michael Bachelor macks on teenage girls. The only liberty I took was to make him do it in his twenties instead of his forties.

Since age is very weird and flexible in the Sims universe, I decided that Dina of Pleasantview is a little older than she looks, closer to Jenny Smith's age than Cassandra Goth's. (I know her lifetime bar says different, but this is a world of magic, cowplants, and age-altering drugs.) This way I could write about her canon first kiss in a way that didn't carry so many unfortunate implications.

So, in the future, why is Dina still young and hot when Michael is old and dead? You could ask the same thing about Bella and Mortimer. I have an explanation for both. I'm not throwing canon out the window, just working with its contradictions. I will try to make sure this prequel is building up to the Pleasantview of TS2; it just may not be in a way you'd expect.

As for The Sims 3, I'm not ignoring it (Hello, Parker Langerak.) I just think things would make a lot more sense if it was 10 years prior to TS1 instead of 25.

Yes, I have thought about this all way too much. But I'm sure some other people have too, so feel free to let your geekiness run rampant in the comments!

Comments

( 22 comments — Leave a comment )
engram_au
Feb. 5th, 2011 10:30 am (UTC)
Michael's death at the beginning of TS2 never sat well with me. The timing is just wrong. Or it could be that everyone but him and Mortimer was chugging the Elixir Of Life. The other option, I guess, is that the Caliente sisters, and through them Don and Bella, had access to alien technology. For whatever reason Michael and Mortimer chose not to experiment, but the others had no such qualms. Hence the eventual age difference between those two and the rest of the cast.
skellington7d
Feb. 5th, 2011 10:42 am (UTC)
The way the Sims wiki uses the Elixir of Life as a handwave for every single Maxis error makes me think somebody was pumping that stuff into the water main.
engram_au
Feb. 5th, 2011 11:55 am (UTC)
Yeah, I like my explanation of the sisters dabbling in alien technology better than the "Elixir of Life" throw away line.

*Plots*

Anyway, the four of them somehow got their hands on this alien technology and eventually, when Bella pushed for something or other too much she got removed from the picture, taken by the aliens. Her quest for eternal youth could have been triggered by one of Cassie's psychic drawings :)
maevikinz
Feb. 26th, 2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
Well, you could also think of their overall heritage. Dina and Nina are one-fourth alien, so it's quite possible that aliens simply live longer. Bella, being decended from mystics, occultists, and decadents probably could brew some sort of potion to make her appear younger (However, seeing as she's still nearly and elder in the Sims 2, I will assume it is only "appearance"). As for Don... Don apparently owned a teleporter and went into THE FRIGGIN' PAST. I do NOT want to know.
gaiamix
Jul. 29th, 2014 10:13 am (UTC)
Yup, the whole teleporter Riverwiew thingy stuff...
i might actually download Riverwiew and play its story. I could play it both on the Newbie\Broke side, and on the Lothario side.
nobody_at_all_6
Feb. 5th, 2011 08:50 pm (UTC)
I always interpreted the "just out of college" bit in TS1 to mean that Michael is one of those people that stays in school forever, you know, straight from bachelor's to master's to doctorate, because they're afraid to go out into the real world. People who pile on the degrees like that can be in school until they're at least 30. That reconciles his age in TS1 and TS2 a little bit better, but it still (in my version) means he's a creepy midlife-crisis-having guy who hits on young women.
skellington7d
Feb. 5th, 2011 09:55 pm (UTC)
Yes, a midlife crisis would explain a lot, like why he dyed his hair and got a tan and stayed in college for so long. Maybe he was insecure that his little sister was all settled down with a family and everything before him. I wonder if anyone else has written about Dina's "first kiss" memory with the more face value interpretation? That would be interesting, but pretty hard to write, I'd imagine.

I portrayed him as younger because of "doesn't know what to do with his life" thing, kind of like Dustin Hoffman in The Graduate. Of course that makes me wonder who his Mrs. Robinson was.
haruwu
Feb. 6th, 2011 05:04 pm (UTC)
there are alot theories about Michael bachelor in sims wika theirs is alot of theories about sims 3 game who is that everybody is different.

http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Dina_Caliente/theories

Michael B.:
http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Michael_Bachelor/theories
(Anonymous)
Aug. 25th, 2011 12:08 am (UTC)
...
Not too much! I love how you dig in into thinks :) I tried doing that too, had my moments, but I thought my head would explode... But you make me want to get back to it :)

-Fikcija
(Anonymous)
Jan. 5th, 2012 06:38 pm (UTC)
Ah, simswikia...
You know, once I actually changed the article about Dina Caliente on simswikia. It said "...but she doesn't have a memory of marrying a rich sim. So either this was an error by Maxis or she married him for another reason." I decided to change it to "or she loved him". Guess what? It got removed and replaced by the old sentence.

Apparently it's not all right to write that Dina might've actually loved her husband, but it's okay to say that Mrs Crumplebottom's looks may be based on Swedish actress Noomi Rapace. Beautiful.
skellington7d
Jan. 5th, 2012 10:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Ah, simswikia...
LOL, Noomi Rapace? XD I tried to add the proper pronunciation of Gvaudoin's name to the wiki and it was removed three times, so I just don't even try any more.
(Anonymous)
Jan. 6th, 2012 06:56 pm (UTC)
Re: Ah, simswikia...
Yep. http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/Mrs._Crumplebottom Check the trivia.
maevikinz
Feb. 26th, 2012 07:13 pm (UTC)
Re: Ah, simswikia...
HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE GVAUDOIN'S NAME?!?!?! That's a mystery all it's own! A lot of people are more concerned with that than the disappearance of Bella.

...

I have always pronounced it [g-VAH-doh-in], hardly saying the G at all.
skellington7d
Feb. 26th, 2012 10:49 pm (UTC)
Re: Ah, simswikia...
You're right about the g, but it's French so "au" makes an "o" sound and "oi" sounds like "wa". Thus it's gVOH-DWAn with the stress on the middle part and the n also hardly said at all.
madamecorbeau
Feb. 6th, 2013 01:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Ah, simswikia...
Also, in is a nasal sound [ẽ] in french, so [n] mustn't be pronounced at all. I remember the shame when my french teacher said "WHY DO YOU THINK THERE'S A [N]?" in a simimilar word... ;(
maevikinz
Mar. 6th, 2012 01:32 am (UTC)
Re: Ah, simswikia...
That may be because "some other reason" is broader, and can include that she actually loved him. However, there are just some stubborn people on that site that are like "NOOOOOO! I WANNA KEEP THIS ARTICLE THE SAME AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY WRITTEN IN 2009! I WON'T LET YOU DOOOOOOO THAT!" Seriously, I had a theory why Lyla's eyes were brown in her picture rather than actually being blue like all her sons and how she is when resurected. I looked at the article an hour later, and my edit had been zapped. I then looked at page history, and there were a HECK OF A LOT "Undo so-and-so's edit", and most of those undos were the same group of people. Looked at other page histories, sure enough, looked the same. That site may as well not be a wiki if only certain people's edits aren't undone.
gaiamix
May. 26th, 2014 02:55 pm (UTC)
Tralala...
So, you actually think that by TS1, Mortimer + Bella are around early 20's (same for Michael but he's 3-5 years older), Kaylinn is an early teen, Dina and Nina are 19, and Parker is in his late twenties. And that Dina & Nina chugged down the elixir of life to become younger than Cassie. And that Mortimer and Michael also chugged down the elixir of life and became elders when they should have been 45 and 48 years old respectively. And if the Wishing Well plus Murphy Bed can make white ghosts, clearly a ghost from murder could also be white.

P.S. I know you made Michael looks like he does in TS1, but are people like the Altos, Gunther's friend Boyd Wainwright with his wife Susan and daughter Blair, and possibly even Blair's own roommates... will they appear? Or do they not exist in this story?
skellington7d
May. 26th, 2014 10:23 pm (UTC)
Re: Tralala...
Dina and Nina are actually a "day" older or so than Cassie. It seems most people think the sim days represent a year, but the 3 day sim pregnancies show that it's not exact. If need be, I can just say the supernatural blood affects their aging process.

I'm not that into TS3, so most of them will not appear unless I have a specific use for them. The Alto daughter and two more of Michael's peers have made some wordless cameos though.
gaiamix
Jul. 29th, 2014 10:05 am (UTC)
Re: Tralala...
Okay. I'm basically the only one who actually likes the TS3 premades, right?
skellington7d
Jul. 29th, 2014 05:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Tralala...
Part of it is that there's so many they kind of get lost in a faceless blur. :)
gaiamix
Jul. 30th, 2014 06:56 am (UTC)
Re: Tralala...
Yup. There are like what, 25 families\households? Even I only started to play them after my game crashed for the first time, after it said there was no disk space. So yeah. (Well there's the Goths of course plus the Altos and Landgraabs of course too- then Agnes, the Langeraks for some reason, and there's Boyd and Susan Wainwright who are scientist and friends with Gunther and have a daughter Blair who lives with the Roomies including Cycl0n3 Sw0rd- and then there is the crazy Hart family and the sporty Keatons and the Frios and Ursine and the Wolffs & there's also a bunch of other families that i cannot keep up with? - said every TS3 simmer ever.)
gaiamix
Jul. 30th, 2014 06:21 pm (UTC)
Re: Tralala...
Yup. Most people just go: "Okay there's the Goths of course plus the Landgraabs and Altos, Bachelors, Langeraks, and Crumplebottoms. And the Roomies with Blair's scientist parents? Or something?" In my Animesa legacy i've written, i do not know how much of it i had to look up on the wiki. Prolly i had to look up most of it, and this is why i had to stay up late. But i had at least to look up Marty Keaton's name. I sometimes confused them a bit with the Andrew's.

I only started to play mostly as premade households when my game crashed during a savefile with Time Lord twins. It said there was no space anymore in the hard-drive. (It was not even a full household: twins Laakhateea and Toorehiki Sweptlifar, their companion Nancy Landgraab, Nancy's ex-husband Geoffrey Chesterton, there kid Malcolm Landgraab, Malcolm's girlfriend Kaylinn Langerak, and Geoffrey's new lover Tamara Donner)

Before that, the only families i knew were, like, Goths, Altos, Landgraabs, Wainwrights + Roomies, Langeraks, Bachelors, Crumplebottom, Clavell, and Bunches?

( 22 comments — Leave a comment )

Profile

Dina
skellington7d
skellington7d

Latest Month

December 2015
S M T W T F S
  12345
6789101112
13141516171819
20212223242526
2728293031  
Powered by LiveJournal.com